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MLP: A Short Essay Detailing My arguments Against the Hive/Hive Mind Theory for Changelings

by MagicMan001


If you any of you reading this knows me, chances are you’ll know I've gone on about this a thousand times, but check the title, because this is essay (if you can call it that) is going to be about that very subject. So really, this is your change to turn around.

As the title states, yes, I have a real grudge against the popular hive and subsequent hive-mind fanon that many have come up for the Changeling species in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Why? I mean, after all, the Changelings are at least part insectoid in appearance, as well as taking orders from a larger-in-size Queen and so a hive society and hive-mind does make sense or is at least rather fitting, right?

Well, to some extent, I think both yes and no. True, the Changelings are at least part insect and the whole Bee People, Hive-Mind concept has its place in popular culture, especially when it comes to insectoid fictional races, but for the Changelings, it's a bit more complicated, I think. From what I've found, there appears to be little concrete canon evidence in favour of the theory, but actually quite some to go against. So I best knuckle down and explain my arguments against:

• Not all insect races have a hive mind or system and the Changelings are also shown to be at least part equine; the ratio just isn't definite and so it’s up to the fans to decide that. Heck, even the official guidebook does at least refer to them as a type of ‘pony’.

• If they are a hive and thus her children, why has Chrysalis never referred to them as such and instead only as her 'minions' and thus just soldiers under her command? It’s wouldn’t have been too hard to switch the words. But not only that, even the fan’s excuse for her that “she’s only trying to feed her children!” loses some weight if you think about it. Her children or otherwise, whilst providing food for them is admirable, she only mentions that part of her reasons once and offhoofedly, like it were an unimportant sidenote. From we saw, her main goal was imperial domination and only really seemed to care about her soldiers in the sense that she wants them powerful enough to help further her conquest of Equestria.

• If they are of a hive mind, then during the Battle of Canterlot, shouldn’t those Changelings have immediately realized that Fluttershy was not one of them when she pulled that trick of them and just attacked her? And even then, a lot of the changelings showed different expressions, including the one with Pinkie Pie, who showed a sense of humour, thus individual personalities.

• A lot of people use the basis of them looking the same that they are drones, but think about it, the royal guards all look pretty much the same hulking white stallion, do we all then assume the Celestia is their mother (though I'll admit that'd make an interesting fanfiction)?. We also have video game mooks like the koopas who look the same. I don't really think them looking the same really has any significance rather than it just makes it easier for the animators.

• I do not who reading this has yet read the comics or not, so SPOILER ALERT, but the Changelings were shown building themselves individuals houses of goo and they operated from their base of operations in a gothic castle, the one they took over. Now whilst I only see this as Chrysalis and her army, the way they conduct themselves does seems more similar to that of ponies than hive insects. They were also shown to capable of speech and the higher up commanders openly questioned some of Chrysalis' decisions, albeit of confusion and not defiance. Then again, Andy Price did say how canon we want to take the comics is up to us, the readers.

This is more of a personal gripe, but I suppose my MAIN reason against the hive idea is that it simply just takes away the ability to look at Changelings as individuals (or at least severely cripples it) and that is something I would love to see handled in the show or comics, especially if they are going to do a story on them showing them as not being "Always Chaotic Evil" (Or Always Neutral or Lawful Evil, depending on your alignment charts, either way, a trope that I have grown to despise and I am sure you agree doesn't belong in the kind of universe of MLP:FiM). I'd love to see their families, their loves ones, something to show how similar they are to the ponies instead of just demonizing them as heartless monsters. For me, a hive just limits so much what we can do with them, and there is some great potential. If the creators gave us a choice between a hive and some deep, complex culture that we as fans can really sink our teeth into, I'm always gonna pick the latter.

This next point isn't as much an argument against, but rather a minor grievance with the fandom itself regarding Changelings: if the Hive fanon was just one of many different theories, maybe I would not feel so resentful towards it, but it's really the fact how pretty much Everyone uses the hive fanon that really jades me. So many people seem to just jump on the bandwagon of the Hive that it leaves little room for alternative fanon ideas, in my opinion.

There are other points made by fellow fans I've talked to about this issue.

intensedebate.com/people/Alond…

"Not to mention, it makes it far too easy to defeat the changeling race. Kill queen = game over. And to offset that, there has to be all sorts of rigmarole written in to prevent that from happening too quickly. You can't have direct confrontations with the Queen, because any pony with any sense of strategy will do everything possible to kill her the instant she's in view. And the Queen, if she has any brains, will never let herself come into view of any pony for that very same reason. Even seemingly secured, one can't be sure that the pony prisoners don't have a secret, undetectable assassination weapon or spell.

Now, that could be offset by having other changelings assume the form of Chrysalis to draw out the assassins and reveal their secrets... but at that point everything gets really complicated and you have to wonder, "Why am I writing this story with colorful ponies again?"

Because honestly, that type of story doesn't work at all with the setting. It's like crossing Care Bears with James Bond."


That, and Chrysalis would then be living in a constant state of panic and fear of death, knowing that hundreds, if not thousands of ponies are actively plotting to kill her and that if she does die, then her entire species goes out with her. She'd be a jibbering wreck.

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www.fimfiction.net/user/Twilig…

"It makes perfect sense for changelings to be independent individuals. After all, in order to simply feed, they have to infiltrate a society of sentient beings, and each case of that infiltration is necessarily unique. A single hive mind simply wouldn't be able to handle so many simultaneous, highly complicated individual cases. Their very being necessitates being capalbe of independent judgement and action, and also quite a bit of 'people (pony?) skills'.

While changelings may very well have some sort of way of contacting each other and/or the Queen, it would only make them a species of individuals with some telepathic abilities. It'd also make for a greater coordination. In A Canterlot Wedding, they didn't display much of that coordination, which is evidence against both the hive mind theory and this telepathy.

The changelings in my so far only story sort of straddle the line. The rank and file changelings are isolated individuals, but Chrysalis can contact the Changeling Commander and thus give orders to her army while not being physically present. Based on their actions in A Canterlot Wedding, when the changeling army attacked at just the right time without any real way of seeing why the time was right, their actions could possibly be explained by this sort of 'uplink'."


I thank them both for their contribution to this and to make double sure, I in no way make any claim to the above arguments as my own.

I guess answers will be given HOPEFULLY in Season 4 where a lot of fanon may be either validated or blown to more pieces than Alderaan. I'm just hoping more for the individual side; my personal headcanon is somewhat like the comics, of them being a kingdom of individuals with their own families and friends, much similar to that of Equestria, helping focus on how they are similar to ponies than how they are different. I've even thought up a story for a possible episode I brought up on tvtropes, and now I shall begin to display it to you as the self-advertising, self-serving, worthless scumbag I am:

In order to try and establish a sense of Peaceful Coexistence (doubtfully the word used) between Equestria and the Changeling Kingdom, Chrysalis' daughter, the young Princess Pupa is sent over as an exchange student/take a tour of Equestria. The gang expect the daughter to be a fierce, black-hearted warrior-like princess, but when she arrives in her armored train (accompanied by armed guard) she is revealed to be a tiny, bespectacled and all around adorably sweet Changeling (add in asthma and the frequent use of inhaler) who could rival Sweetie Belle in terms of giving a viewer diabetes by her sheer cuteness.

Of course, we have the usual shenanigans with cultural clashes (bonus points if the Changelings' culture is given an explanation, something from the Far East like Japan and Korea would be really interesting), with a written message/threat by Chrysalis to the Mane Six that if a single hair on Pupa's pig tailed mane is hurt, she'll personally bite their heads off one by one. However, some of the Mane Six decide they want to see if they can pump any secret information about Changeling government and military secrets out of the filly (behind Celestia's back) by sending in the CMC to befriend her. They eventually get nothing and are surprised (despite Pupa's young age and already innocent appearance and demeanour) that she knows little to nothing of her mother's dealings and plans - she doesn't even know about the Canterlot Invasion, which can lead to a classic Fawlty Towers, "Don't mention the war/invasion!" set of jokes.


And with that, I have most likely lost tons of your respect. I ask myself, “was it worth it, Magic Man?” Probably not, but you can’t blame a young Brit for trying.

Then again... on the other hand, when you think about it, WOULD going deeper into their Kingdom in Season 4 be such a good idea? We fans come up with so many fanon ideas and great fanfictions based off them that completely different canon information, without intending to, straight-up Nukes those fanon theories and fanfictions. Take Rainbow Dash and her Dad in ‘Games Ponies Play’ for example: some of us cheered that we finally got to see one of her parents; others cringed or cried because some great orphan Rainbow Dash fanfics were now discredited, even if they still make great reads and have to an AU tag attached. Really, what makes the Changelings so great is that they can be whatever your story requires them to be due to their mysteriousness and ambiguity in the show. They can be portrayed as a bee hive, barbaric nomads like the Huns, a cultured civilisation, whatever the author desires. So if the cartoon does go into it, many of those different Changeling theories and fanfics may very well end up being damaged because of that. So maybe it wouldn’t be too bad to keep that mysteriousness for the Changelings going for a while longer, I dunno.

What I ask you reading this is what you think of the theory? Do you have other arguments against it or alternatively for it?
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MagicBIaze Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014
tl;dr
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DracoKX Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014
You really don't like the Hive Theory huh
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Thanks for that information, Been wanting to know more in depth. Some stuff was not enough and gotten so curious to know more about them. Heck I love to know the vary first birth of them when they first came into the world and Formed there Kingdom.

I just love learning there History, I mean I am sure with any Kingdom I am pretty Sure a Changeling could rebel and resist the queen if a changeling wanted that and be granted "Asylum" But really depends though. If I was a Changeling and I refused to follow the Queen, I asked Celestia to grant me protection but I will be officially tagged as a Traitor.

With a Strong will and rebelling agenist your own kind to be freed from the your past lifestyle to be living among ponies is a possibility, It can happen. A lof us Humans we betray or become traitors or of the sorts. You can't think it can't happen but it really can. If a Changeling refuses and hates feeding off love for a source of food and is tired of being ordered around then that changeling has evet right to rebel and betray his own kind.

Being Granted Asylum is your asking Celestia and the Royal Guards to protect you should any harm should come to you. Only if you request to be under that Protection.
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DracoKX Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
I think Chrysalis's crown has a Hive-mind function, but it can be deactivated so the changelings could enjoy their daily lives. And as for he hive, maybe, maybe.
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az-amon-ra Featured By Owner Edited Jun 17, 2014
I'd like to point out that if Changelings organised themselves in a Hive structure that wouldn't mean they had a Hive Mind.  IRL there is no such thing as a hive mind, insect hives function with individual insects filling specific functions and they function efficiently but they aren't psychically lined or anything.

I've never liked the nice Changeling idea, they work better as predatory race that regards ponies as a food/energy source. 

It is entirely possible for every Changeling to have been birthed by Chrysalis but she feels no familial connection to them.  This could be because Changelings don't have a concept of family (which would make sense since every individual would be related by default) or they simply lack such instincts.  Caring for young long term is a relatively new thing evolutionary speaking.

I am of the opinion, based on the comics, that individual Changelings are well individuals as far as having independent thoughts goes but that doesn't negate the idea that they live in a hive structure since they can still function in such a structure with individuality.

My personal opinion is that Changeling work better as a predatory race.  I've never liked the idea that Ponies and Changelings can get along if they just try. Changeling regard ponies as food/energy sources.

Oh and I'd also like to add that I don't believe Changeling infiltrate pony society but rather use they shape shifting abilities to lure a single pony away to feel on.  Based on Chrysalis' poor performance as Cadance I'm guessing Changelings aren't or can't mimic pony behaviour very well.
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Jdailey1991 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014
You have a very compelling argument.
I've never written any fanfic yet, but I did imagine them as loosely based on the Borg from the Star Trek universe.  I haven't read the comics either, but from what I'd heard, it fleshed out Chrysalis and her minions very well.  I just don't understand why people would stick only on the cartoon and the cartoon alone to rely on information.
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Dekaccho Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014
I know this is an old journal, but I just wanted to say that I agree with most of your viewpoints on changelings. I'm writing my own fanfic currently and I'm gathering ideas like these to see where some lore, canon or otherwise, would fit in and others would not. While I'm still using the idea of a hive being their home, I'm still going with the idea, like yours, that every changeling has the potential to have their own individual characteristics as they mature and not be some mindless obedient drone serving their queen that are all indistinguishable from one another.
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Somehow I always imagine the Changelings as an expy of the Drow from Forgotten Realms, and Queen Chrysalis being something of an expy to Lolth, the insane and sadistic Spider Goddess of the Drow.

Needless to say, it wasn't a flattering impression I have of them. 
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
I looked them up, it's definitely a more original take on them amongst the many we usually get.

Say, you know about biology (I mean, you Are studying it), concerning changeling nymphs, would there be any biological and health issues that may come up. I bring this up since Weevil and Echo have an egg that is due to hatch very soon.
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
I am not quite sure, genetic diseases in insects and probably most other lifeforms are not as well documented, as least as far as I know, beyond the ones used as model organisms to study Human genetics and neurobiology, and I don't know what kind of other diseases

Maybe fungal infections? Those are pretty common among many plants and animals species. 
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
That's okay, thank you for replying; I suppose fungal infection could be one for which the baby will need to be treated. I was thinking that changelings could also molt, and I imagine a grubs may do that quite a lot.

Another thing I think I may have pointed out to you some time ago that changeling immigrants become notorious for bringing in diseases into Equestria hence they need to vaccinated, leading to one doctor quipping, "the principal export of the Changeling Kingdom is Brainworm Rot Type C". I'll need to think up some new diseases.
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Maybe this list of honey-bee diseases could help: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_…
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Thank you.

In fact, this high rate of diseases can lead to some of the moral and ethical conflicts of changeling immigrants living in Equestria; under law, when there is a new possible outbreak or foreseen outbreak of a changeling virus/disease, all local changelings become required by law to be vaccinated (even if they've lived there for years) so if the virus is in the kingdom, it can be stopped there. Not only is it inconvenient, but some could make the argument its unethical (somewhere I think there is a case, it's a matter of wording/phrasing it) and some paranoid changelings believe and rabble rouse that the Equestrian government is deliberately injecting them with the illness to kill them.
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Ooh, that certainly is a recipe for trouble. 
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
As much as I like to give both sides an argument, I'm not sure if I could give the changeling anti-vaccine crowd a really solid case here. How 'unethical' could they argue it to be when it's claimed to be done for public health and safety and when many of the changelings are fully aware of the dangers of these viruses? It's pretty difficult to make a two-sided argument.
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SmackUp911 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013
True, but many people use "hive" to describe a changeling group because of the insectoid connections, not because they have no individuality. Personally, I think that Chrysalis' changeling swarm is more of a cross between Brave New World and 1984- Offspring are purpose bred and raised communally, and the Chrysalis swarm tries to suppress their individuality in favor of conquest.
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4ScarfAce4 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I didn't give the Changelings' organization too much thought until I'd read the comic, where they're displayed as individuals, upon whom the Queen is dependent for reports. To my mind, the bigger question is whether Pinkie Pie is a quasi-autonomous part of some kind of multiversal swarm mind. After all, in Equestria Girls, she displayed what could have been a running gag or could have been evidence of unusual knowledge of things happening outside her own world.
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d715 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013
Also the fact that the comic shows the minon changelings having personalties able they don't talk
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ForlanceAbice1 Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013
And this matters why?
Fanon is completely worthless in the long run of things.
Trust me when I say Hasbro has something else in mind.
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RabidDog20 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
I like the theory that they live communally, rather than as a hive mind. 
It keeps them 'human' yet gives them a reason to not be openly living among ponies.
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Scarheart76 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Whelp...this is going into my fav bin for reference purposes.

However, I have my own theory involving changeling evolution, but it pretty much agrees about with 85% of the Magic Man's hypothesis.

I love it when the show gives you plenty of wiggle room to play with.  The options for multiple ideas on the changeling mentality and makeup are broad and very wide ranging.
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Scropion-Blood Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013
DUDE SERIOUSLY???? It's a t.v. show, it doesn't have to follow logic.
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Scarheart76 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Since when are imaginations logical?  Just have fun with it. :)
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Scropion-Blood Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
That's what I mean, It doesn't have to follow logic. Just let your imagination go wild.
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Scarheart76 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's exactly what he did, don't you agree?
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Scropion-Blood Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
Yep.
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UniversesCollideInc Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013
You're the one who posted that theory? Bravo my friend. The theory I'm using (currently at least) in the MLP: FiM section of a mega crossover is that the Changelings we see in canon are actually corrupted Flutterponies who are later purified and restored while true Changelings are insectoid but come in a variety of colors like ponies do and eat latent emotions (not just love) in the air. We even plan on engaging Blueblood to a true Changeling to sweeten him up.
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Evowizard25 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I don't personally put them with a 'hive mind'. More of a 'mental link'. In the fact that all changelings are 'linked' to each other, just to different degrees.

{Like Chrysalislover, I too have a caste system.}

The strength of the 'link' matters from caste to caste. 

With Scout's their link can be turned off and have more personality to themselves, while Soldiers are heavily reliant on the 'link'. Since their orders are relied from Valkyries.

Chrysalis, the first and only queen of the changelings, is at the head of the hierarchy. Underneath her, and in case something happens to her, are the Valkyries. An entire caste made to lead in her stead. {That's why she can afford to go out to the front lines or take part of an invasion.} 
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nioniosbbbb Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
I believe that eh hive mind is a way of communication between those closely related enough. I have the idea that only friends, loved ones, and family can do this thing between them. The only one that can simultaneously hear them all if she wishes is the Queen herself. I have a headcanon that says that it is her crown that allows her to do so due to it being made by a special metal called "Black Platinum". The crown itself can judge if someone is worthy or not of bearing the crown by simply testing if his mind is capable of withstanding the pressure of hearing all the changelings' needs without going mad.  
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CelestialRainicorn Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I only suspect a hive mind like society due to the fact Chrysalis has been seen to have a few brainwashing or mind alerting spells.
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Scarheart76 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
A misnomer, I suspect for those outside changeling society who do not understand how they work.  To some extent, I think they can feel each other's emotions, the more powerful the changeling, the more sensitive they are to sensing the emotions of other beings.
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
That, and Chrysalis would then be living in a constant state of panic and fear of death, knowing that hundreds, if not thousands of ponies are actively plotting to kill her.

You know, that would actually be quite funny.

Changeling Mook 1: "Hey, have you heard? Our Queen had locked herself in her room and refusing the come out for anything."

Changeling Mook 2: "Yeah, I heard. It hasn't been safe for her to do ANYTHING these days with all those assassins trying to whack her, especially with that 2 billion golden bits bounty on her head."

Changeling Mook 3: "Did you know about some of the attempts? It's just absolutely crazy how hard they try to get her! She was woke up in the morning by a dozen unicorn sniper teams blasting her bed from kilometers away. Griffon mercs shelled her with heavy artillery during her noon day speech at the plaza, and then her entire Summer Palace sank into the ground - with her inside it - by hired Diamond Dog sappers collapsing its foundation when she was having spa session, her whole SUMMER PALACE! After that, who WOULDN'T be running scared?"

Changeling Mook 1: "Well our Queen has to eat every now and then..."

Changeling Mook 2: "She does get her meals through a secret passageway, as I heard from the rumors about. It'll take a clever assassin to try and get her now..."

[Suddenly, there was the sound of an explosion, like a clap of thunder, that shook the castle, followed by the unmistakable sound of a snarling, swearing Changeling Queen."

Changeling Mook 2: "Note to self, stop tempting fate..."

Changeling Mook 1: "How the heck did they put a bomb in her meal?"

Changeling Mook 3: "Who knows. This would be the fifteenth bombing attempt on her this week, by the way..."
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Scarheart76 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's just 'effing Golden. :)

I like you.
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
Thanks.
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Okay, that was funny. XD
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Thanks :lol:
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Welcome. :)
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StEbAnRoPeRo Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
I share your point. There is no canon evidence of the "hive mind" inside the changelngs. That is a bit awful and only superstitions about it. Until the season 4, I believe in your point of view.

For example, in my fanfic (is in spanish) I made the changelings very loyal to their queen and their goverment. I gave the a "insectoid type" society, but no the "common mind". Even so, one changeling have his doubts about their´s loyalty.

As I said, I share you point.
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SaintHeartwing Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Student General Artist
I agree with midnachrysalislover that whilst they might not be Hive-minded, they do seem to have a caste system. Not quite like the film "Antz" showed, but similar. Personally I was just glad to see more of them in terms of the comics. Just like it was fascinating to see Rarity as Nightmare Moon. The comics allow new territory to be broached and expanded.
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
Hmm, "Antz", how about "Bug's Life"? I mean, sure it's not as research accurate, but it then allows for a caste system but allows more the individuality and families the Bug's life allowed. In fact, idea for Season 4...

Chrysalis: (to Twilight, beaten on the ground) You piece of dirt! No, I'm wrong. You're lower than dirt. You're no better than the rest of my subjects! (walking off, addressing the surrounding Changelings) Let this be a lesson to all you Changelings. Ideas are very dangerous things. You are mindless, goo-shoving losers, put on this earth to serve ME! 

Twilight: You're wrong, Chrysalis. (Chrysalis looks around, looking dumbfounded. He stands up, weak and battered, inhaling deeply) Changelings are not meant to serve you! (Chryalis marches back to her, growling and gritted her fangs) I've seen them do great things. And year after year, they somehow manage... to build homes, crops and flourish and they didn't need you for that! So-So who's the weaker one? They don't serve you. It's you who needs THEM! [ Crowd gasps, Chattering ] They're a lot stronger than you say we are. And you know it... don't you?
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SaintHeartwing Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeah, that probably seems more feasible...and appealing!
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Indeed, the comics are a welcomed addition.

I guess just what gets to me is when fans just jump on a bandwagon and ultimately ONLY use the hive idea instead of others because it's popular, you know what I mean?
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LordPendragonOfCaria Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I guess.
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
And don't get me wrong, your theories and explanations for the society are indeed well-thought out, no question, I just wonder which route the SHOW will go. Would they pick the intricacies of an insect hive but still make it work, or would they go for the pony-like kingdom which of the two would probably be simpler and straightforward, focusing on how ponies and Changelings are similar than how they are different? 

Now, yes, I would prefer the latter and I do hope the writers pick it, but I do need to ask, would you be okay if the writers did go for the kingdom? I mean, if they did go for the hive, I suppose I would have to learn to accept it, but would you fine if they did go for a kingdom?
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LordPendragonOfCaria Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Sure. The show does what it does, and if they introduce a concept for the Changelings that is very different from my own, I'll probably revise my canon to fit it. When it comes to headcanon, I've always been one to first and foremost follow what the show would support, before then using my own imagination to fill in the cracks (i.e. how I choose to design the Changelings, simply because we don't know otherwise).
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
Well, that's great. It's good to know someone who is flexible in their personal canon.
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013
I don't mind the idea of a caste system, but something more akin to like the Indian caste system. I just like to see them having their own children, partners and families. If they could give us just that, I'd be happy.
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LordPendragonOfCaria Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Antz is a good comparisson. They're comparitively more intelligent, but I see them living in what could essentially be your typical insect hive society, only more advanced and with some magic perhaps (i.e. telepathic communication) involved.
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MagicMan001 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
Hmm, "Antz", how about "Bug's Life"? I mean, sure it's not as research accurate, but it then allows for a caste system but allows more the individuality and families the Bug's life allowed. In fact, idea for Season 4...

Chrysalis: (to Twilight, beaten on the ground) You piece of dirt! No, I'm wrong. You're lower than dirt. You're no better than the rest of my subjects! (walking off, addressing the surrounding Changelings) Let this be a lesson to all you Changelings. Ideas are very dangerous things. You are mindless, goo-shoving losers, put on this earth to serve ME! 

Twilight: You're wrong, Chrysalis. (Chrysalis looks around, looking dumbfounded. He stands up, weak and battered, inhaling deeply) Changelings are not meant to serve you! (Chryalis marches back to her, growling and gritted her fangs) I've seen them do great things. And year after year, they somehow manage... to build homes, crops and flourish and they didn't need you for that! So-So who's the weaker one? They don't serve you. It's you who needs THEM! [ Crowd gasps, Chattering ] They're a lot stronger than you say we are. And you know it... don't you?
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LordPendragonOfCaria Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer

Hm, that could work too. Showing the Changelings as being more independent-minded and free-willed than you'd expect, but from there, they're kept under such a strict and confined life via Chrissy's tyranny. Who is perhaps even more ruthless than most other queens :nod:

 

As always, so many possibilities, and all work.

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